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🗓️ 4 February 2025
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Just two weeks in power, the new Trump administration has already led a horrifying whirlwind of attacks on immigrants, transgender people, tribal nations, people of color, and women. Government institutions are being dismantled. Make no mistake, these shock-and-awe actions are designed to keep people in fear and paralyzed as a fascistic presidency stages what is being called an administrative coup.
Our guests today, David Cobb and Kali Akuno, are among the few who saw this moment coming years ago, and have never stopped organizing against the fascist threat. In their work, including the creation of the People’s Network for Land and Liberation, they take a programmatic approach to overcoming fear through clear analysis and direct action. They aim not only to resist, but to build real infrastructure to keep people safe, meet basic needs, and cultivate the idea and practice of political and economic democracy on a mass scale.
As the Italian antifascist and theorist Antonio Gramsci said, “The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born. Now is the time of monsters.” For David and Kali, as well as for our guest host Meleiza Figueroa, the way through is not only fighting the monsters, but bringing that new world into being. We’ll spend the hour with our guests discussing the nature of this current historical conjuncture, and what they have been doing to prepare the people for this very moment.
Jacobin Radio with Suzi Weissman features conversations with leading thinkers and activists, with a focus on labor, the economy, and protest movements.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Jacobin Radio. I am producer director Melissa Figueroa sitting in for Susie Weissman. |
0:13.0 | We are not even two weeks into the new Trump administration, and it has already been a horrifying whirlwind of attacks on immigrants, transgender people, tribal nations, |
0:22.8 | Black Indigenous and people of color, and women's rights, as well as dismantling government |
0:27.8 | institutions at the highest level. It's coming almost too fast and furious to fathom. And make no mistake, |
0:34.1 | these shock and awe actions are designed to keep people in fear and paralyzed, |
0:38.3 | as Trump and the overt fascists around him are staging what is being called an administrative coup. |
0:44.3 | Our guests today, David Cobb and Kali Akuno, are some of the few who saw this moment coming years ago, |
0:50.3 | and have never stopped organizing against the fascist threat, organizing nationwide |
0:55.2 | to build the People's Network for Land and Liberation, and a programmatic approach to overcoming |
0:59.8 | fear through clear analysis, organization, and direct action to not only resist, but build |
1:06.5 | real infrastructure to keep people safe, meet basic needs, and cultivate both the idea and |
1:12.3 | practice of political and economic democracy on a mass scale. |
1:16.4 | As the Italian anti-fascist Antonio Gramsci said, the old world is dying and the new struggles |
1:21.9 | to be born. |
1:23.1 | Now is the time of monsters. |
1:25.2 | And for David and Kali, as well as myself, the way through is not only |
1:29.3 | fighting the monsters, but bringing that new world into being. We'll spend the hour with our guests |
1:34.9 | discussing the nature of this current historical conjuncture and what they have been doing |
1:39.5 | to prepare the people for this very moment. All this when our program returns in just a moment. |
1:53.6 | Welcome to Jacobin Radio. I'm producer director, Melissa Figueroa, sitting in for Susie Weissman. |
1:59.7 | We are recording this on the 12th day of the Trump |
2:02.8 | administration, and the nation is reeling from a flurry of executive actions that have already caused |
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