Jacobin Show: Chile's Resurgent Left w/ René Rojas

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🗓️ 21 July 2022

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Cale, filling in for Jen, speaks with Ben Burgis about how the left should navigate periods of defeat. Benjamin Fogel interviews René Rojas, author of a recent piece for Catalyst, "Chile's Resurgent Left," about social-democratic politics in Chile in the post-Pinochet period and especially since the 2019 uprising.

The Jacobin Show is a weekly YouTube show offering socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. This is the podcast version of the episode from July 20, 2022.

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0:00.0	Music
0:29.0	Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Jacobin Show. I'm producer kale filling in for Jen. We have a great show today. We have a really good interview with Renee Rojas.
0:38.0	He's been on this channel several times before, typically talking about Chile and yes, he's talking about Chile.
0:46.0	But it's because there's actually a lot of really wonderful and exciting things happening in Chile and politics that I don't know if you know this, but they actually have a socialist in office.
0:56.0	And they're in the process of reforming their constitution. And so there's actually a pretty good chance that there's going to be some massive political changes in Chile.
1:07.0	And also we've seen massive changes in the region in general. And so we get into a little bit of what it means actually to have a socialist in office and then also have kind of a left presence in the entire region and what the possibilities are.
1:22.0	So stick around for that. That's going to be fun. In the meantime, I am actually now joined by friend of the show Ben Burgess.
1:31.0	Ben is hopefully a fan favorite. He should be if he's not, he will be after today. And if he's still not, we're going to keep trying because Ben is one of our favorites.
1:43.0	So good to see you, Ben. How's it going?
1:47.0	I'm good, Kale. How are you?
1:49.0	Just chilling hanging in there.
1:52.0	Keeping my mind on Chile.
1:56.0	So let me see. I'm just checking producer notes.
2:01.0	Looks like we're supposed to be talking about the labor theory of value.
2:06.0	Yeah, for the first, for the first three hours can be the labor theory value, right? That's that.
2:12.0	You know, like then we're going to, we're going to shift.
2:16.0	And talk about, you know, how to overcome the value form that was going to be hours three through six.
2:22.0	Yeah, look, folks, I'm sorry. You know how this goes. I'm the producer, but even I have to be straight jacket into these conversations sometimes.
2:30.0	So we're all going to brace ourselves and we're going to make it through the transformation problem.
2:35.0	No, actually, we're not going to talk about that.
2:38.0	But speaking of value and maybe avoiding value and doesn't even matter.
2:44.0	Actually, Ben has some pretty great articles in Jacob and recently on a good chunk of GA Cohen's work and also exploitation and how we understand exploitation with or without value theory.
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