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Jacobin Show: US Empire in Withdrawal? w/ Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad

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🗓️ 18 August 2022

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Noam Chomsky and Vijay Prashad, two of the left's most brilliant critics of US empire, sit down with Jacobin Show's Ariella Thornhill to discuss their new book The Withdrawal. To Chomsky and Prashad, US global power acts much the same way a Godfather rules over a Mafia family, imposing its interests on all who stand in its way domestically or internationally. The wide-ranging discussion touches on American exceptionalism, Military Keynesianism, the roadblocks for a new Iran Nuclear Deal, and the implications of Nancy Pelosi's recent visit to Taiwan. We are also joined by Ben Fong to discuss how Big Pharma is licking its chops at the prospects of psychedelic legalization next year, and Jen and Cale try to make sense of the Gen-Z trend of quiet quitting at work.


The Jacobin Show is a weekly YouTube show offering socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. Music by Zonkey. This is the podcast version of the episode from August 17, 2022.



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0:00.0

Music

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Hey everyone, welcome back to the Jacobin Show. I'm Jen Pan and here of course with none other than

0:35.6

Kale Brooks. Kale, how are you? Doing well. I don't know. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling all right. It's

0:43.3

another beautiful week. How are you doing, Jen? You know, it's funny before we logged on or before we

0:49.1

started recording, I was commenting on Kale's Renaissance lighting. So if you like Kale's Renaissance

0:55.6

lighting, please hit like and subscribe. Yeah, this is there's already made this trip to Jen,

1:02.1

but there's Madonna and Gile just had a frame. So this is the accidental Renaissance. This is what

1:08.6

you see. God is he's he's happy with the show lately. Yeah. Well, speaking of the show, I think we

1:17.6

have a really good one today for this week. It's kind of a very special episode, right? We have

1:23.6

number one, our friend Ben Fong, who I'll be talking to about psychedelics. But we also have

1:30.8

an extra special interview with Noam Chomsky, Vijay Prasad and our good friend, Ariela Thornhill.

1:38.0

Kale, do you want to tell the people what's going on? Yeah, well, so Noam Chomsky and Vijay Prasad

1:45.0

just put on a new book titled The withdrawal Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, the fragility of US power.

1:50.8

It's just kind of classic Noam Chomsky, Vijay Prasad. There are two of our most astute

1:56.6

analysts of world politics and especially US empire. So it's there's a lot going on right now,

2:04.4

obviously, especially with China in the invasion of Ukraine. So we try to touch on most of everything

2:11.2

in the world in that interview and hopefully you enjoy it. Stay tuned for that. All right, well,

2:18.0

that is actually a pretty long interview. So we should probably get to the show, but I actually

2:23.9

have something that I wanted to bring up before all of that. And I'll just say for the audience,

2:29.7

I didn't tell Kale about this beforehand. So you're going to be getting his off the cuff

2:35.3

spur of the moment reactions. But Kale, just I was recently browsing the news as one does,

2:41.7

and I kept coming across a trend piece on a new Gen Z workplace trend called Quiet Quitting.

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