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🗓️ 7 October 2023
⏱️ 57 minutes
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James Hasson is a former US Army captain, Bronze Star recipient, and author of Kabul. He narrates important yet lesser-known facts about the US war in Afghanistan like the flawed Doha Agreement and the unwise decision to give up Baghra. James shares how mistakes were made, from the abandonment of US citizens to the unkept promises to the Afghan people.
James spoke with soldiers on the ground during the withdrawal. There was utter chaos at the gates, planes were landing and taking off ad hoc, and crowds of people were literally dying trying to escape the Taliban. He talks about how the ranks of the Afghan army melted away and how tragic it was that President Biden ordered them to leave their allies to fend for themselves.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Software Radio, Special Operations Military Nails, and straight talk with the guys in the community. |
0:30.0 | Hey, what's up, everybody? Welcome back to Software Radio. On this episode, I have James Hassan, former army, former |
0:44.0 | bronze star recipient. He wrote a book, and this book is a little bit of a title that I want to, I just have to read it, okay? |
0:50.0 | And correct me if I'm wrong, James, then I'll get you to welcome on the show. It's called Kabul, the untold story of Biden's Fiasco |
0:58.0 | and the American warriors who fought to die to the end. Is that correct? |
1:02.0 | Or who fought to the end? Yeah. Who fought to the end? Yes. |
1:06.0 | Yeah, we'll welcome to the show. Hey, thanks, man, I appreciate it, man. Yeah, so you've been making the circuit, you've been getting around talking about your book coming up, is that what's happening? |
1:14.0 | Yeah, we released on the 15th, so people have been buying Kabul, Amazon or anywhere else, but we've been trying just our best to get the word out. |
1:22.0 | Because one of the reasons that we wrote Kabul, my co-author, Jerry Dunlavy and I, was that, you know, it's 20 years of war, 20 years of experiences, 20 years of loss, and for things and the way they did. |
1:36.0 | And then with, you know, this explanation from the administration that this was somehow a quote success, that this was inevitable, that, you know, |
1:44.0 | which part was a success, like just the overall Kabul evacuation was a success because they feel that the lives lost were more than what was lost. |
1:52.0 | You said the other day, and that's also what, you know, the messaging from the White House has been, but that, you know, that didn't sit well because I, you know, I knew people were in Kabul when that was happening. |
2:04.0 | And, you know, I didn't like my tiny little part to try and get interpreters anywhere out and thank God they are, but it realized that there was, there was a whole lot that that hadn't been told. |
2:16.0 | And candidly, you know, when we started, I thought that I had a decent idea of what was, what everything, you know, was like or what happened at least. |
2:25.0 | And while writing the book, we realized we didn't even know the third of it. |
2:29.0 | So that's really, you know, there has to be some accountability and more importantly that the guys in the ground and the families of the 13 deserve to have, you know, the stories told. |
2:43.0 | So more accountability than just going to the VA and saying that your injuries that you sustained overseas deployed were attributed to that situation more than that kind of accountability to, you know, you want the Biden administration to like what? |
2:55.0 | It's a great question. |
2:56.0 | What's the accountability, you know, for the situation that was honestly, if you were to ask me, I think Secretary Austin, Secretary Blinken should have resigned. |
3:04.0 | The president should have asked for their resignations. |
3:07.0 | And I can go, you know, into as granular detail as you want about what those failings were. |
3:13.0 | But at the end of the day, I think also accountability, you know, starts, starts with the commander in chief and that's, that's a totally political matter. |
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