Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's twice weekly podcast on leadership with Scott Miller,

where for six years in 450 plus episodes, we have had the distinct privilege of interviewing and conversing

with some of the world's most iconic authors, successful, entrepreneurs, people that have had

high highs and low lows, professionally, personally. We talk about marketing, culture, leadership,

strategy, innovation, creativity, artistry.

We interview creators from all facets of the world.

Franklin Covey, of course, is the most trusted leadership firm in the world, founded four

plus decades ago, in part by Stephen Covey, who of course wrote the seminal book, The Seven

Habits of Highly Effective

People.

This podcast is designed to invest in millions of listeners and viewers twice weekly to make

you a better leader, formally or informally, regardless of what your role is and including

roles you may have in your personal life.

We like to help ignite the genius and other people

and aspire them to greatness. Our guest today is James Rhee. He is a teacher, professor, he is a business

leader, he is a parent, he's a son, he's a spouse, he is an author, he's an inspirer, he is a creator.

He geniusly wrote this book called Red Helicopter, that quite frankly has gotten a bit of

a cult following around it. Red Helicopter, lead change with kindness, plus a little math.

James, welcome to On Leadership.

Thank you very much for having me.

That was a really warm and insightful intro, so thank you.

James, we're going to learn a lot about your history, a little unconventional,

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