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Jason Isbell On Love, Heartbreak & Songwriting

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🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Isbell sings about his split from musician Amanda Shires on his latest album, Foxes in the Snow. "What I was attempting to do is document a very specific time where I was going through a lot of changes," he says.

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This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. My guest, Jasonbell was described in variety as the poet laureate of American

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Rock. The quibble I have with that is that I'm not exactly sure I'd call it rock, because there's

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country and folk music blended into many of his songs. Maybe the word Americana more suits him.

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He's won nine Americana Music Awards and six Grammys. His lyrics are as well

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written as a good poem or short story. They're often very personal, and that was especially true of

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his album, Southeastern, which was released in 2013 and was his first album since getting sober.

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It's also true of his new album, Foxes in the Snow, on which he sounds especially naked because it's solo.

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His band The 400 Unit sits this one out. It's just Isbell and his guitar.

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Some of the songs are about the blame, anger, and guilt when a relationship ends,

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and about the exhilaration of falling in love again.

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His ex-wife Amanda Shires is also a songwriter and singer

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and violinist who performed with Isbell. She's written her own songs about the cracks in their relationship.

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They were in a 2023 documentary together called Running With Our Eyes Closed, which is about the making of

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Isbell's 2020 album Reun, on which he played fiddle.

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The film also end up being about the tension in the marriage, which was exacerbated during the

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COVID lockdown when they spent more time together than they ever had. Jason Isbell got his professional

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start with the band The Drive-by Truckers. Before we hear some of the

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relationship songs, let's start with a song that opens the album. I love this one. It's called

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bury me. bury me where the wind don't blow, where the dust won't cover me, where the tall grass grass grows or bury me right where I fall.

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