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Hello and welcome to full disclosure, a podcast project conceived entirely to let me spend more time than I'd ever get on the radio with interesting people.

And it is people this week for the first time ever. It's plural. I've never once, in fact, I wonder for people

who are listening rather than watching, if I say there is no earthly way I could have interviewed

either of these people separately, with the possible exception of Anton Deck, I suspect that

Jane Torval and Christopher Dean will be the first names that pop into people's head. So you're used to this.

For me, it's quite odd.

Is there an order?

Jane, is there a hierarchy?

Do I direct the question to you first and then let Christopher fill in any gap?

No.

You know when they used to present us on the ice?

It would always be Jane Torval and Christopher Dean in competition.

So that's how it always went. So when you see us from left to right,

Jane Tollwere and Christopher Dean, do you know, as I was slotting up on this before sitting down

today, it did occur to me that you were quite, the names do actually fit together very nicely.

Torval and Dean as surnames and Jane Torval and Christopher Dean, they trip off the tongue. There was no question I don't imagine of doing it the other way around because it fits. But what if you'd been called like

Gajun Blenkinsop or something like that? It wouldn't have had, which is a good Nottinghamshire name,

I think, Blankensop. I have no idea if that would have ever won the Olympics, though.

The presenter wouldn't have been able to get the name out. It doesn't have the same poetry to it.

But we will begin in Nottingham and we'll do a little bit on the years before you met.

And I'll start with you, Christopher, because you're from a mining family.

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