The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others. Every week I host a conversation

with a Christian who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft. We talk

about their path to mastery, their daily habits, and how the

Gospel of Jesus Christ influences their work. Today's guests are Jeff Brown and Jesse Wiznooski.

Jesse is an impressive technology executive currently serving as the director of

marketing at a company called Phone Burner.

Before that, he was in seminary and worked in a local church,

so I loved getting to talk to him about that transition. Jeff is a popular speaker, author, and host of the

Reed to lead podcast. Jesse and Jeff recently teamed up to write this super practical book called Read to Lead, the simple

habit that expands your influence and boosts your career.

So Jesse and Jeff and I, we recently sat down and talked about how sometimes losing your

job can be a blessing that God uses to sanctify us.

We talked about how to absorb books into our bloodstreams, not just to read a book, right, but to retain it and really let it change our lives.

And then finally I shared a little bit of detail,

I think for the first time publicly,

about what my personal reading and note-taking process looks like.

Please enjoy this episode with Jeff Brown and Jesse Wiznooski. Hey guys, welcome to the call to Mastery, really excited to have you here.

So Jesse, we were talking a little bit about this before we started recording. My background's in tech, so I'm super

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