Hey everyone, it's Jasmine Lee and I'm the co-host of People's Party with Talib Kuali.

Today, I'm happy to share this clip from our latest episode with a dear friend of mine, Jeff Ross.

In this excerpt, Ross sounds off on cancel culture and breaks down what is lost and gained in this current era of hyper sensitivity.

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You describe hitting comedy clubs as hitting the gym. Can you explain to the people how important spots like the comedy seller, the comedy store, Boston Comedy Club are keeping the art form alive?

And where do you think the best comedy clubs are today?

I think anywhere where it feels like a safe haven, where the comics come first, where camera phones come second.

And I think they're more important than ever because for a while, it looked like everything was going to go to YouTube and Amateurs could really pop and you didn't need a big network backing and Twitter was a lot of fun in the beginning for jokes.

They all became bad crowds. Unsafe spaces, if you will.

But comedy clubs, I think of them as a temple of free speech.

Every now and then somebody slips up and the moment goes viral and that is what it is.

But for the most part, it is like doing reps. Craig Robinson dragging me out during the pandemic to do spots.

Now it's six months later. I'm six months ahead of my colleagues.

I haven't act. Even since I saw you in yellow springs, I've done five, six, seven sets.

So a joke that was clunky a week ago is now working.

And to me, it is like, you know, obviously like hitting the gym. What the fuck do I know? I got a big belly. But it's like even when I do a set and I go, I don't know if I even try anything different.

I always try to eat. I don't even write down the jokes I'm doing. I want them to come out different every time until I hit and go, that felt right.

Let me go back and listen to that. And they they they carve. They they develop.

They mold into something that you don't even know what some stupid little pun could become a 12 minute essay.

You know, if you keep at it and Chris Rock taught me this, like think of things you want to talk about and then write jokes about that as opposed to just trying to think of anything that's funny.

So I'm trying to be a little bit more thoughtful in my standup about things I want to talk about being a little bit more personal because the

rows are very not personal. They're really about my guest of honor or the person in front of me. So I'm trying to talk a bit more about my personal life just because.

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