From the Advocate magazine in partnership with Glad, this is LGBTQ and A.

I'm Jeffrey Masters, and this is a conversation with someone that I just honestly love talking to.

I first got to speak to Jennifer Finney Boylan a couple years ago for this show

about her memoir called She's Not There. That book was one of the first bestsellers by a trans

author and has since gone on to become a truly seminal work of the trans literary canon. She's Not

There was published in 2003 and since then the trans experience, both the experience itself and the way we talk about it, has changed in some really dramatic ways.

And so I'm very happy to tell you that Jennifer Finney Boylan is back.

Jenny makes her triumphant return to this podcast to talk all about those changes and her brand new book.

That book is called Good Boy, My Life in Seven Dogs.

So we discuss all of that, as well as how her own daughter coming out,

gave Jenny a firsthand example at how different this new, younger generation views being trans.

As she says, it no longer requires an apology.

Being trans is something to celebrate.

So let's hear it.

This is Jennifer Finney Boylan.

So I want to jump into the book.

In many ways, I think good and bad in the media, we perpetuate this narrative that trans lives only begin with transition.

And everything else is off limits.

And I think that the book was a really necessary reminder that trans people's lives actually start at birth,

and that trans people have very valid childhoods and youths also.

I want to be very careful when I talk about trans lives and my own life in terms of the language that I use.

By that I mean that I'm aware that there are many transgender women who would

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