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Today's conversation on Back Porch Theology is the second to the last in our series on the theology of worship.

And it's a really special moment for Allie and me because we get to share two dear friends with y'all for the first time here on BPT, Jeremy and AD Camp.

Of course, many of you are probably already familiar with Jeremy because while he's only 46, he's already kind of a legend in Christian music with over six million albums sold, 44 number one singles, and more than two billion.

Yes, that's billion with the B streams.

And some of you probably watched the 2020 movie,

I Still Believe,

which tells the unforgettable story of how Jeremy's first wife,

Melissa, died of cancer when she was very young

and how that tragic loss tested his faith,

taught him how to hang on to the goodness of

God when life is anything but good, and ultimately led him to 80. The most believable believers

I've ever met are those who've waited honestly through woundedness without letting go of God's

hand, those who trudged through dark nights of the soul,

only to come out on the other side trusting him more fully, despite still having questions that

might never be answered, this side of glory. Jeremy and 80 are those kind of people.

Allie and I love them and can unequivocally say that we see Jesus more clearly as a result of being friends

with Jeremy and 80. I can almost guarantee you that you will too after hanging out with them today.

So please grab your favorite beverage, a couple snacks, and your Bible.

And come camp out on the porch with the camps.

Well, hey, hey, back porches. My name is Allison Allen. I am the five-foot-12 woman. What am I?

Spiritual wing woman. I know. Spiritual wing woman. You know what, it's been a while.

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