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This is a global player original podcast.

Okay. Global Player Original Podcast Hello and welcome to full disclosure, a podcast, designed entirely to let me spend more time than I'd ever get on the radio with fascinating people.

Joan Bakewell, welcome.

Well, it's nice to be here.

It's an absolute pleasure to have you here.

I mean, you have something of a portfolio career, but I think first and for, I mean, not least, of course, the fact that these days you're in the House of Lords.

But first and foremost and always, you see yourself as a journalist, I think.

I do see myself as a journalist, a journalist, stroke writer.

Yes.

House of Lords comes quite low on the list.

But you take your role seriously?

I take my role seriously, but I don't go in very often, I don't speak very often basically because they don't talk about the things that interest me. No. But I speak when...

Do you find out you get a heads up on what's on the agenda to you and make a B-line for the House

of Lords and get yourself down? Yes, I mean well we get a sheet saying there'll be debate about

this, that and the other and I did start, did actually initiate a debate myself

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