What's up everybody? Welcome back to a couple things, interviews.

With Sean and Andrew.

Today we have a wonderful guest, John Eldridge.

You may have heard of the book Wild at Heart.

I have now read that book about three times, and it's a phenomenal book.

I think it's an important book for any father of sons to read or any parents of sons.

Or even a spouse.

Yes. Yes. it really talks about the

operating system of a man and it was written by John Eldridge who has three sons

himself John and his wife Stacy are living out in Colorado Springs and I am so

honored that John joined us because this book has meant a lot to me,

and I feel like it really reflects how my father raised me, which means a lot.

And John is an author, a counselor, and a teacher.

He's also president of Wild at Heart, which is a ministry devoted to helping people discover the heart of God,

recover their own hearts in God's love, and learn to live in God's

kingdom. John went to Cal Poly and got a theater degree there, and then he worked at Focus on the

family for a while, got his master's from Colorado Christian, and he was working as a private

counselor at a private practice before launching Wild at Heart.

And he's big outdoorsman.

He loves all the Colorado Mountains and the beauty that that has big in the Shakespeare,

which we talk about bow hunting, cigars, all the manly stuff.

But they also at Wilder Heart just came out with a series, which is phenomenal.

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