Hi there, welcome to crime and coffee. My name's Allison.

And my name's Mike.

And we're coming to you from a little suburb in Florida.

Yeah, we are. And we're married. And we're here to talk about some crimes and go through some stories that appeal to us and find out, you know, just, you know, really kind of some of the details and some of the,

unfortunately, some gory details.

I'm not really into all this gory stuff, but.

And I'm fascinated by the gore.

You are.

Fascinated and horrified.

Right.

At the same time.

Yes.

Seems like a, you know, a genre that is dominated by a lot of female interests.

So I don't know what it is.

Maybe us men are afraid to get into a lot of this details and stuff like this.

But all these crimes are committed by us men.

Predominantly men, yes.

I wonder why men are more turned off by the gory details.

Like, I've always been fascinated by true crime and death and serial killers,

just so fascinated to understand what makes somebody's mind the way it is. And then when I tell

you about the stories, you're like, how do you listen to that? Like, it's just so sad. I try to

surround myself with positive things, but there are lots of elements of true crimes

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