John McWhorter – Is DEI on Its Way Out?
The Glenn Show
Glenn Loury
4.8 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 2 February 2024
⏱️ 58 minutes
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0:00 John: Claudine Gay needed to resign, but her plagiarism wasn’t a mortal sin
6:50 Has DEI taken a hit after the Gay controversy?
13:50 When “DEI” really means “racial preferences”
22:12 The case of Neri Oxman
23:52 John: Bill Ackman looks “absurd”
26:47 Three cheers for John’s dinosaurs
28:22 Is Glenn really a “black conservative”?
31:11 The three dimensions of black conservatism
37:50 Black elites and immigration
42:35 Ibram X. Kendi undeterred
44:48 Roland Fryer is still standing
46:48 Is Amy Wax getting railroaded by Penn?
Recorded January 27, 2024
Links and Readings
John’s NYT piece, “We Need a New Word for ‘Plagiarism’”
Elon Musk’s DEI airline post on X
Adolph Reed’s essay, “‘What Are the Drums Saying, Booker?’: The Curious Role of the Black Public Intellectual” (originally published in the Village Voice, April 11, 1995)
Wilfred Reilly’s comparative IQ post on X
Recording of Amy Wax’s FIRE webinar
Glenn’s December 2021 episode with Amy Wax
Glenn’s August 2022 episode with Amy Wax
Charles Murray’s book, Human Diversity: The Biology of Race, Gender, and Class
Glenn’s conversation with Charles Murray
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| 0:46.4 | Hello everybody, you've tuned into the Glenn show. |
| 0:49.0 | I'm Glenn Lowry and I'm with John McWhorter. |
| 0:52.3 | Hey John, how you doing? |
| 0:54.0 | I'm jet lad, one, but other than that, I'm fine and in fairly coherent spirits. |
| 1:00.0 | Let me introduce us and then we can talk about your fatigue. I teach at Brown University. I'm a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and I'm a host of the Glenn show. John McWhorter is my conversation partner every other week here at the Glen Show. |
| 1:13.0 | He teaches at Columbia, he writes for the New York Times. |
| 1:15.9 | And what are we talking about today, John, besides you having Jet lag, |
| 1:20.4 | are you going to tell us about what you were doing and why? |
| 1:23.2 | No, I was in California. |
| 1:25.2 | Okay. |
| 1:26.2 | The, um, there are all sorts of things we can talk about. |
| 1:30.5 | What's, what's been in the news that's racial lately? |
| 1:36.0 | Well, for example, |
| 1:38.0 | we should edit this burn out. |
| 1:43.0 | What are we going to kick it off with? |
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