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all in pod. One of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world.

He is known as one of the world's leading experts on economic development.

One of the most famous political scientists in history.

We're talking about moral and political principles here.

I would suggest that all four wars could be ended quickly.

Great Power Politics is now back on the table.

If we are anything as a world community we have to implement

what we've said. I'm excited for this panel we're going to talk about foreign policy. We have I think two

of the most interesting imminent renowned thinkers about foreign policy,

Professor John Meersheimer from University of Chicago and Professor Jeffrey Sachs from Columbia.

So great to have you guys here today. It's a it's a big world

and there's a lot of things happening so let's just jump into it. The big news over the past week was that

Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris for president. I think for people who see the

world in partisan political terms this might have been surprising but I don't think

that you guys were that surprised by that do you see an underlying logic to this

Jeff why don't I start with you? I think it's obvious there's basically one deep state party and that is the party

of Cheney Harris Biden Victoria Newland my colleague at Columbia University now.

And Newland is kind of the face of all of this because she has been in every administration

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