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I'm John Karamonica, pop music critic in the New York Times.

I'm Joe Kasker, I'm a reporter at the New York Times.

I'm John Summit, a DJ.

That is absolutely correct.

John Summit's on the couch today.

If you know John Summit, get excited.

If you're not up on John Summit, let me get you up on John Summit. First of all, new albums called

Comfort and Chaos. If you think about what's been happening in dance music and

club culture in the last three to four years, you cannot tell that story without telling the story of your rise and the way in

which you have been able to translate what to me has always felt like a culture that to many remains a tiny bit obscure or out of reach.

You seem to have been doing an excellent job of bridging and bringing those sounds to huge audiences.

And that's something that I think if you're paying attention to pop music like we are,

we see it happening all the time.

But somehow it's like weirdly still below the mainstream radar in the bigger sense or maybe

back below the mainstream radar because obviously EDM had its boom moment he

had its bust and now I think a lot of people don't know like EDMs back?

Yep.

Question mark or exclamation point.

So tell us what I mean given that's a great opening that's a great opening place over the last few years because I know

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