John Whitgift

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

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4.6 • 842 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Today's episode is about England and its capacity to be deeply weird. Weget into one of England's weirdest, bloodiest, and maybe horniest moments, the English Reformation: a time of enormous tumult and violence, but also new ideas that reconfigured and reshaped the world. Today’s Bad Gay is perhaps an unlikely and unfamiliar candidate, but one whose life and loves sheds a light on that time: it’s the theologian, reformer, and Archbishop of Canterbury, John Whitgift. Click here to subscribe to our monthly podcast "Extra Bad Gays" and support the work we do to make the show. ----more---- SOURCES: Diarmaid MacCulloch, Reformation: Europe’s House Divided 1490-1700, 38831st edition (Penguin UK, 2004) P. G. Maxwell-Stuart, The Archbishops of Canterbury (Tempus, 2006) “John Whitgift History,” John Whitgift Foundation(blog), accessed March 18, 2024, https://johnwhitgiftfoundation.org/about-us/john-whitgift-history/. Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicsdesigner

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Season 7, Episode 6 of Bad Gaze, a podcast about evil and complicated queers
0:23.2	in history.
0:24.2	I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher, and member of the board of the Shvulus Museum in Berlin.
0:30.1	And I'm Heulemi, a writer, author, and artist.
0:33.1	Last week, we talked about the conductor James Levineine who ran the Metropolitan Opera for more than
0:40.2	40 years and was also allegedly a serial workplace abuser and abuser of young men and boys.
0:50.8	Who are we talking about this week, Hugh? This week we're going to talk about John Wittgift.
0:55.4	Who?
0:56.8	Ben, come on.
0:58.0	I can't believe you don't know John Wittgift, a 15th century Archbishop of Canterbury.
1:02.6	Oh, of course, the 15th, yes.
1:04.1	Now that John Witt gift, right, okay.
1:06.7	Is this my payback for making you listen to an hour about classical music last week?
1:10.8	Yeah. Is this my payback for making you listen to an hour about classical music last week?
1:12.7	Do you make me think about the Church of England?
1:13.2	Exactly.
1:14.8	This is the Reformation.
1:15.5	This is my bag.
1:16.3	Oh, God.
1:20.6	But, well, it's funny you say that because I do think people, especially people from outside of England, do like to think of my homeland as quite a sort of stayed formal, uptight even, there I say it, place.
1:31.8	But I think you can actually underestimate the country's capacity to be deeply weird.
1:37.0	Oh, I have never underestimated the capacity of England to be deeply weird, but... Well, today we're going to get...
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