You're listening to The O. C.D do this for interviewing inspired therapists,

psychologists and people who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD stories.

And welcome to episode 362 and in this one I chat with Johnny Say.

Johnny is a UK-based therapist and in this episode we talk about secondary spikes in

OCD. But before that he's we talk about secondary spikes in a CD.

But before that he shares what he learned at the Sigmund Freud Museum,

secondary spikes in a CD with examples, recycling resistance, acceptance of commitment therapy skills for

secondary spikes, a theory on why the brain is doing this, depression, and some of these secondary

spikes discussed in this episode include

obsession switches form, analyzing the technique, switches from a core fear of threat to a core fear of unhappiness.

What if this isn't ICD, resentment, interactions with sensations and more.

So I think this is an important episode. It's something I've seen a lot, people

getting tripped up by secondary spikes, so I'm glad Johnny came on to discuss this with me.

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About forever do, here is Johnny. Welcome back to the show, Johnny.

Great to be here against you. Good to see you. Yeah, good to see you.

So before we get into the topic today as secondary spikes, just anything you want to share is an update or anything you've noticed or learned or?

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