You're listening to The OCD Stories podcast, hosted by me, Stuart Ralph.

The OCD Stories is a podcast dedicated to raising awareness and understanding around obsessive,

compulsive symptoms. I do this for interviewing inspired therapists, psychologists, and people

who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD Stories.

And welcome to episode 467. And in this one, I got on Johnny Say, who is a UK-based therapist

and co-founder of the Intractive Center for OCD Therapy. Now, this is a part two to Jack's

episode last week, which was titled Understanding and Practicing

Act Skills, The Clients Perspective.

Now, this is the same title, but the therapist's perspective.

So Johnny is Jack's therapist, and I originally approached Jack when he came up with this idea

of doing this episode, then I asked him, what would it be like if Johnny did sort of a response to your episode after listening to it?

So this is what this episode is.

So thank you so much for Jack for allowing Johnny to do that.

And for coming on last week again, I appreciate it.

The first part of this episode is Johnny going over his thoughts on

Jack's episode because I gave him it ahead of time to listen for this episode. So Johnny shares his

thoughts on what Jack said and he adds some points and then Johnny shares some blocks and

resistances to OCD skills practice more generally.

He also shares some interpersonal blocks that can occur and other ideas that can help.

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