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Bill Jordan Peterson has a new book coming out called We Who Wrestle with God.

He recently talked about it with Richard Dawkins and comedian Bill Maher, both atheists. As we'll see in these clips, they both press him on similar

things. Peterson's specialty as a psychologist prompts him to mind the Bible and other religious texts for literary and

cultural archetypes and symbols. And, you know, this is not your area of specialization, Bill,

but do you have any interest in this area or have you read much on it?

This is not an area in which I have studied. And so I haven't read much on it,

but nevertheless, I am really interested in learning about it. And I think that Jordan Peterson,

as a psychologist, has a great deal to say about these biblical narratives from the standpoint of their psychological

insight into human nature and how we relate to one another. And so I value what he's doing.

Here's the first clip with Dawkins asking Peterson if biblical characters like Kane actually existed. Here's the first clip.

The fact that I care about are the fact that are true and have evidence going for them.

I'm not that interested in symbols. I think Dr. Peterson, you're drunk on symbols.

Yes, you mentioned. I've heard that comment, yeah.

Yes.

I mean, for example, I've, I counted up in your book, We Who

Ressled with God, a number of references to Cain.

There are 356 references to Cain in the book and 20 references to the descendants of

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