Hello and welcome to Under the Skin from Luminary.

This week, I, Russell Brand, that's who I am, spoke with Jordan Peterson, you know, Jordan

Peterson is because he's famous, he's the professor of psychology, he's a clinical

psychologist.

I really enjoy speaking with Jordan Peterson and I think he's actually a very, very lovely

man and I think you'll see a different side to him in this conversation.

I also think that much of the cultural ephemera attached to Jordan Peterson is not a fair

reflection of who he is, is a human being, but more sort of convenient use of his rhetoric

for the ongoing cultural wars that we have to resolve if we're going to move forward

and confront our true opponents, the real obstacles people in positions of legitimate

genuine authority.

You know, he's written that book, 12 rules for life and antidote to chaos.

You will know by now, surely he's written beyond all the 12 more rules for life, so we're

going to be talking to Jordan Peterson in a bit.

And if you're joining us for the first time in order to see their second hour, then

yeah, please, pull forward.

The second hour is pretty amazing.

If you're listening to the whole thing now, you're going to enjoy it.

It's intense, it's tearful, it's beautiful, it's revelatory.

You will enjoy it very much.

Did you enjoy it, Jen?

Yeah, it was great.

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