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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Judging Sam: Michael Lewis Talks Money with Matt Levine

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.69.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Today on the show, Michael talks with Matt Levine, business columnist at Bloomberg News and author of the newsletter “Money Stuff.” Matt knows more about how crypto markets work than just about anyone else. And also about how they don’t work. Like when there’s a more than eight billion dollar hole nobody seems to have been able to fill. Matt and Michael talk trial, SBF and FTX.

This conversation was recorded at 2pm on October 17.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey listeners, if you're in the Bay Area in California, you ought to come out on Monday

0:13.8

November the 13th to the Sydney Goldstein Theatre in San Francisco.

0:18.3

On that night, I'll be on stage during a live event, talking about my new book, Going

0:22.7

Infinite, The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon.

0:26.2

The book is about Sam Beckman Freed and the spectacular Rise and Fall of his crypto

0:31.1

exchange FTX.

0:33.0

I had really almost unlimited access and it's an incredible story and I can't wait to

0:37.6

tell you about it.

0:38.8

It's at 7.30pm on Monday November the 13th and presented by City Arts and Lectures.

0:44.8

For more information on attending live, purchasing tickets or watching online, visit cityarts.net.

0:51.4

I'm looking forward to seeing you there.

0:53.6

Hey there, it's Michael Lewis.

0:55.3

Before we get to this episode, I want to let you know that you can listen to each episode

0:59.0

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1:06.2

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1:10.8

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1:16.5

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1:18.7

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1:24.6

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1:30.4

Welcome to Judging Sam, the trial of Sam Beckman Freed.

1:33.7

I'm Michael Lewis and we're recording this on October 17th.

1:37.5

Today on the show, Matt Levine.

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