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from Malcolm Gladwell, Dr. Lorry Santos, and tons of other top hosts. I'm Michael Lewis. This is Judging Sam. It's Thursday, March 28. My producer

Liddy Jean and I are standing outside the Federal Board House where where Sam Beckenfree was just sentenced to 25 years in jail.

So what we can talk about when we're back in, you know, but I'm curious what it was like in the I wasn't in the courtroom.

Yeah. What was it like in there? I mean it was really it was very full one of the fullest days in the courtroom

Is there any obvious emotion? I mean, Sam Bankman's preed's parents were, at some point they had their heads right up next to each other.

And when Sam, Bankman freed came out, what struck me was, you know, he was really pale,

his hair was totally wild, and you could hear the clanking of the chains.

You could hear the clanking of the chains.

He was, and he was holding his hands behind him as if he were

handcuffed and I thought oh that's just coincidental though he wasn't handcuffed

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