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The Dr. Phil Podcast

Justin Paperny: College Admissions Scam and Federal Sentencing

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

4.413.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2019

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Justin Paperny, who spent time in prison and now prepares others for their time behind bars, visits with Dr. Phil on this week’s Phil in the Blanks podcast to discuss the infamous college admissions cheating scandal involving celebrities and wealthy parents. Listen in as Paperny, author of Lessons From Prison and Ethics in Motion, reveals what he believes is the motivation that caused these parents to cheat – and why he believes all the defendants in the headline-making scandal are going to prison. For more information: https://www.drphilintheblanks.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You're law your said Justin, you're going to prison.

0:42.0

And I remember looking out into Alcatraz from the San Francisco office thinking, this is

0:47.5

not good.

0:48.5

I'm innocent, I've done nothing wrong, I've been swept into this.

0:51.3

Adversity could be not getting into your desired school and his parents.

0:54.4

They wanted to fix that and they had the means to fix it.

0:57.2

And who are the victims in this university scam?

1:02.6

That was just a proponent that you were listening to just then, he is co-founder of White

1:06.3

Colour Advice.

1:08.5

And all I can say is, I hope you don't ever meet him professionally, I hope you don't

1:13.4

ever need to meet him professionally.

1:17.0

But if you ever get in trouble, if you are ever looking at an ADA across the table or

1:23.1

a US-acistic attorney across the table and you have gotten crossed up and made some bad

1:31.8

decisions, this is a guy you need to talk to.

1:35.6

And he knows it because he's smart, he knows it because he's studied, and he knows it because

1:40.4

he has walked on the other side and made some bad decisions himself that he believes cost

1:47.7

him both money and time in the prison system.

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