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vanilla. I wopanella. Here comes Eric Metaxus. Folks, I'm often excited to do this program.

Today, alas, I'm not. Actually, no, I got that exactly backwards. I'm very excited to do the program today because I have as my guest, someone I'm only just meeting now. His name is Justin Shubo, and I will allow Justin to help explain to you my audience why I'm excited to talk to him. Justin, first of all,

welcome to the program. Thanks for having me. Well, listen, you let's see if we can help my audience

understand because I didn't give you an introduction. What is your current role? In other

words, you were, you're interested in the arts and architecture. And the more I read, the more I

said, I can't wait to talk to him. But I want to help my audience understand that with you. So

who are you? You know what I'm saying?

Like when somebody says, well, who are you? What are you doing? First of all, you are up to be the

chairman of the national endowment for the arts, which is amazing. And I want to talk to you

about that. So that kind of tells people about you. But just tell us more about your background. I know, for example, Blackmark in your book,

you attended Yale Law School. Shame on you. What else? Well, I run the National Civic

Art Society. It's a nonprofit organization headquartered in Washington that promotes the

classical tradition in public art and architecture. We see that tradition as being unsurpassed

in American history. And we can talk about how it goes back to the founding fathers who consciously chose classicism for the core buildings of government in the new nation.

But we advocate for classicism in our public buildings, whether that's federal courthouses, also things like train stations.

We're interested in the design of Penn Station in New York, for instance.

But also our monuments and memorials, most of which have been very bad for decades.

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