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The Chris Cuomo Project

Kara Swisher Talks Big Tech Billionaires, Trump, and TikTok’s Future

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

News, News Commentary, Politics, Government

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Kara Swisher (tech journalist and podcast host, “On With Kara Swisher and “Pivot”) joins Chris Cuomo to explore the political and cultural impact of tech billionaires, from Elon Musk’s ambitions for Mars to the ongoing debate around TikTok’s future. They discuss how social media is shaping democracy, the rise of oligarchy in America, and the challenges of holding platforms accountable in an era of rapid change, while reflecting on Trump’s influence on the evolving tech landscape. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Support our sponsors: Shopify Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at SHOPIFY.COM/chrisc Factor Eat smart with Factor. Get started at FACTOR MEALS.com/cuomo50off and use code cuomo50off to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. Oracle Right now, Oracle is offering to cut your current cloud bill in HALF if you move to OCI. For new US customers with minimum financial commitment. Offer ends March 31st. See if your company qualifies for this special offer at Oracle.com/CCP AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out DrinkAG1.com/ccp to get this offer! #cuomo #news #tech #politics #trump #elonmusk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.7

What are we to make of all the tech bros around Trump? Is there really an oligarchy afoot?

0:36.3

And is Elon part of some darker reality we have to deal with?

0:42.9

Like, what's going to happen with TikTok? I know someone who can answer all these questions in a way that, surely I couldn't.

0:50.8

You want to know who? Great. I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo project,

0:55.3

Kara Swisher. You know her from all her work on the technology community, the business, the

1:00.8

culture, her work with Scott Galloway on their amazing podcast. She has unique insights to what

1:07.8

Elon Musk is about, but more importantly what what he wants, and what the other tech

1:11.7

bros want, and what TikTok is really about and what's most likely going to happen and like a dozen

1:16.8

other things, because this woman is D-E-E-P-D.

1:22.6

So, a conversation about what matters from someone who's been studying these people for decades.

1:36.3

Kara Swisher, thank you for joining me. I've missed you.

1:39.5

Thank you. You have, really? You think of me often?

1:43.6

Yeah, but I don't have to think about you because I'm a fan of you in Galloway. Oh, thank you. Thank, you have, really? You think of me often? Yeah, but I don't have to think about you because

1:45.2

I'm a fan of you in Galloway. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. And I've been, I've been watching

1:49.7

you recently. What matters to you? Right now? Yeah, about the political, uh, the political

1:55.7

dynamic. What are you looking at? What are you looking for? It's a good question. You know, I just want people to understand who these people are and what

2:02.8

they're doing and what's happening here, having had a history covering every single one of those

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