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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

Karen Read Murder Trial: ‘Cops Lying Against Cops About Cops’

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Karen Read, 43, of Mansfield, is accused of second-degree murder and other charges. The prosecution says she hit her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, with her vehicle outside of a home in Canton during a snowstorm on Jan. 29, 2022, following a night of drinking. 

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Judge Ashley Wilcott is a nationally recognized Child Welfare Law Specialist and Juvenile Court Judge with over 20 years of experience as a trial attorney and child welfare specialist. Her life’s work revolves around passionately advocating for and striving to improve the lives of children at risk and youth in the foster care system.

Joshua Schiffer is an attorney providing legal services covering Criminal Defense, Personal Injury. Listeners can learn more about Joshua Schiffer at his website 

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Listen to previous episodes on The Karen Read Murder Trial:

The Karen Read Murder Trial: Killer or Cover Up Murder with Joshua Schiffer  

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, Judge Ashley Wilcott, and Joshua Schiffer continue to weigh in on the latest Karen Read trial details. Sheryl draws parallels to the infamous Casey Anthony trial. Together, they explore various theories surrounding the case, the intense public and media scrutiny, and the strategic legal maneuvers at play.

Show Notes:

  • (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
  • (0:30) Sheryl compares the Karen Read trial to the Casey Anthony trial 
  • (1:57) “It don't matter what you think or what you feel or what you believe. The only thing that matters is what you can prove.”
  • (2:25) What is a buffer zone? 
  • (2:30) Both Judge Ashley Wilcott and Joshua Schiffer weigh in 
  • (4:00) “There's one woman, she has a shirt on that says ‘free Karen Reed’, but she's holding a poster that says ‘justice for John O'Keefe’. I feel for her. I get it. It almost can't be both. -Sheryl Mac
  • (8:00) The role of federal investigations
  • (9:00) Analysis of John O'Keefe's relationships with his peers
  • (10:00) Pre and post-police funeral behavior
  • (13:00) Impact of Proctor's testimony 
  • (14:30) Speculation on the defense's potential witnesses 
  • (22:00) “If you want to recast it, this is cops lying against cops about cops” -Joshua Schiffer 
  • Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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0:00.0

Y'all better buckle up. I have not seen a case like this since Casey Anthony. And let me explain.

0:16.4

I have four sisters. Well-educated women, diverse in their likes and dislikes.

0:24.6

They've probably got about 12 degrees between them.

0:27.6

A couple of them got a six-year degree, one's got a PhD.

0:30.6

They've got master's degrees, they've got RN degrees.

0:33.6

And I say that because these are logical people.

0:38.3

But during the Casey Anthony trial, I had one sister that thought the mama straight up killed that baby.

0:46.3

I had one that believed the baby drowned accidentally, and they covered it up with grandpa's help.

0:51.3

I had another one that believed the child got into some drugs and

0:55.4

accidentally OD and I had another one that thought the baby died somehow maybe hitting

1:01.3

her head or something and her mama panicked and covered it up. And I thought, you know what,

1:07.2

this is your jury. These are all four mamas.

1:11.1

These are all four, you know,

1:13.4

middle of the road, middle America kind of people.

1:17.1

And so I said on national TV,

1:20.2

what I thought was logical,

1:22.2

and I did so confidently,

1:24.4

that Casey Anthony was gonna walk out of that courtroom.

1:33.6

And the reason I said it was because if you could not tell me how that baby died,

1:35.1

you don't have murder.

1:38.7

People lost their minds.

1:41.0

I had more hate mail.

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