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The Scotland Outdoors podcast from BBC Radio Scotland.

Hello and thanks very much for downloading this podcast. I'm Mark Stephen. I'll be absolutely

honest with you. I only got back home about three hours ago. My wife and I were away for a few

days, basically visiting friends and family, which was lovely. It was really nice to catch up

with folk, particularly after lockdown. But having said that, it is very, very nice to be back

home again. This podcast is going to be about place very, very nice to be back home again.

This podcast is going to be about place.

It's going to be the central issue, really.

And joining me to explore that further is Helen Needham.

Hello.

Well, I also had a change of scene recently after months of being, well, pretty much in the same place like everyone else.

During lockdown, it's really been literature that's taken me imaginatively to other places.

Actually, something that I've really enjoyed being transported in my mind to all these far-off places.

And that's a particular reason why I'm very excited to speak to our guests today.

Indeed, Kathleen Jamie is an award-winning writer of poetry and non-fiction,

who's regarded as one of Scotland's leading nature writers.

She spent years exploring Scotland and other corners of the world and has a particular interest in archaeology, birds and whales.

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