Katty Kay: How Everyone Can Lead with Impact and Joy

FranklinCovey On Leadership with Scott Miller

FranklinCovey

Business, Management

4.9 • 851 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Katty Kay, journalist, author, and BBC correspondent, shares insights from her latest book, The Power Code: More Joy, Less Ego, Maximum Impact for Women and Everyone. Drawing on global research and decades in the media, Katty explores why women are often reluctant to pursue power—and how reframing it as a force for positive change can unlock leadership for all. She discusses the difference between “power over” and “power to,” how organizations can reduce barriers to the top, and why men must be partners in reshaping leadership.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's Twice Weekly podcast on Leadership with Scott Miller.
0:16.2	That's me. I'm your host for six years now, two episodes weekly on Tuesdays and Fridays, where we both
0:23.2	through video and audio curate remarkable conversations with, quite frankly, remarkable people.
0:28.5	Franklin Covey, you know as the world's most trusted leadership firm established in part by
0:33.2	Stephen Covey, the author of the book The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People,
0:37.9	40 years ago where we help organizations, literally from all parts of the world,
0:43.5	build better leaders, help people become more effective in all of their roles in life.
0:47.9	And each week we like to highlight and have conversations with entrepreneurs,
0:52.6	CEOs, artists, creators, entrepreneurs, journalists.
0:56.6	Sometimes they're academics.
0:58.4	They may have actually experienced some big setback in life in their career, personally,
1:03.7	sometimes traumas.
1:05.2	They've lived to not just share about it, but teach through it.
1:09.1	And today I am honored to be interviewing one of my sort of
1:12.0	journalistic heroes for many decades. I have followed her across her career with BBC. Her name is
1:17.1	Katie Kaye, and with her colleague and friend Claire Schittman. She has now authored the new book,
1:24.1	The Power Code. Listen to this tagline. More joy, less ego, maximum impact for women, and everyone.
1:32.4	Caddy Kay joins us both as the author of this book, as a longtime correspondent with BBC,
1:37.5	and as the co-host of the new podcast, The Rest, is Politics.
1:42.1	Caddy Kay, welcome to On Leadership.
1:44.5	Scott, thank you for that nice introduction.
1:46.3	So happy to be here.
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