Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Nish Kumar. And I'm Cocoa Khan. And I notice you're not wearing a suit today, Nish. Very disrespectful. Well, I'm on tour in New York as we record. But by the time people listen to and watch this show, I will be in Washington, D.C. And I do not have a suit and tie with me, and I imagine I'll be heckled by J.D. Vance from the audience.

Though I would say, given some of the material, I'd be surprised if my clothing choices were the biggest problems he had for the show.

Can you imagine if J.D. Vance came to one of your shows?

I can imagine it, and it ends up with me in a in a Trump branded gulag. Well, listen, today

we promise is not all going to be about Donald Trump. We're going to be chatting to Politics

Joe's political editor, Ava Santina Evans, about the government's policies for women. Are they

making people's lives better? And later, I'm talking to feminist thinker Sophie Lewis about how the good

name of feminism has been tarnished by some no good reprobates. It really gets my heckles up,

like J.D. Vance, looking at a man in a sweatshirt. All right, everyone, straight to the biggest

bombshell of the week. Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky's meeting last Friday

was an absolute disaster. Ben and Tommy from Pots Save the World even called it maybe

the worst meeting in the Oval Office ever. And I always think at these junctures, it's worth

turning to the great modern political thinker Homer Simpson whenever we talk about what's going on

in the US right now. So I'd suggest that it is in fact the worst meeting in the Oval Office so far.

I'm glad you were with that Homer Simpson quote and not like nuts and gum together at last.

But anyway, we're going to assume that you're all mostly up to date.

So as a very, very brief summary,

the shared press conference got derailed, totally derailed after a journalist implied that Zelensky

was disrespectful for wearing his trademark army fatigues. And there was an intervention from

JD Vance that suggested he hadn't been grateful enough. And then that led to Zelensky

attempting to correct him, you know, presumably in the style

of Macron and Starmat earlier that week, which was fine then, but it didn't actually go too well.

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