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Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Keith Allen on becoming an actor and why he would legalise drugs

Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Channel 4 News

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Keith Allen has been many things. The father of popstar Lily and Game of Thrones actor Alfie Allen, he was also a TV presenter, theatre actor, the man behind two hit football anthems (the Fat Les ditty “Vindaloo” and New Order’s “World in Motion”, both of which he co-wrote) and a handful of small roles in cult movies (Shallow Grave, Trainspotting, 24 Hour Party People).

Growing up, he was a troublemaker; he’d spent time in Borstal, was thrown out of drama school, even sent to prison.

Now in his 70s, as he prepares to star in a new musical called Rehab, he looks back on the moments that have made up his rollercoaster life and career with Krishnan Guru-Murthy, on this week’s episode of Ways to Change the World.

Produced by Silvia Maresca.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome two ways to change the world. I'm Christian

0:04.4

Geremirthi and this is the podcast in which we talk to extraordinary people

0:07.6

about the big ideas and their lives and the events that have helped shape them.

0:10.8

My guest this week has lived. Keith Allen is an actor,

0:17.0

comedian, musician, he's had hit records and he's sporting some excellent facial hair at the moment because you are

0:26.4

currently playing Scrooge. I am yeah I put Alexander Palace. What's been your

0:31.5

approach to Scrooge? I'm trying to remember the lines.

0:35.0

That's about it, to be honest with you.

0:38.0

I read the script and I just thought there is something about this fellow.

0:41.0

It's going to be a journey that will take you from not

0:45.1

liking this man to actually having empathy with him, not just because he's a nice guy,

0:51.2

because I think you come to understand why he was like he was my ears like he is

0:55.6

so that that was what attracted me so what are your thoughts on why Scrooge became

0:59.8

Scrooge well I think it was because his head was turned by Mali when he was

1:04.1

younger obviously but also there's reference to the fact that he was dumped into a

1:08.1

boarding school and he was left there doing the holidays when everybody else went

1:12.3

home so he felt pretty isolated

1:14.2

from a very early age.

1:17.2

Now you were done to a boarding school?

1:18.4

I was indeed.

1:19.4

Oh yeah yeah I mean I'm not the kind of actor that draws on past experiences to that degree.

1:27.6

But yeah, when I read the script, there is this scene where he does talk about that you know about

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