Keith Payne (on the psychology behind the political divide)
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Umbrella
4.6 • 68.2K Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2024
⏱️ 125 minutes
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Summary
Keith Payne (Good Reasonable People, The Broken Ladder) is a professor and author. Keith joins the Armchair Expert to discuss the effects of economic segregation, the roots of our current divisions, and how some people feel about dating others with opposite political views. Keith and Dax talk about the psychological immune system, the better-than-average effect, and how tribalism plays a role in people’s politics. Keith explains the geopolitical effects of the Mason-Dixon Line, how education levels can predict someone’s political affiliation, and the misconceptions of how income is effecting our politics.
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| 0:14.0 | Welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair expert, experts on expert. |
| 0:17.1 | I'm Dax Shepard. |
| 0:18.0 | I'm joined by Monica Padman. |
| 0:19.2 | Hi. |
| 0:19.8 | Hi. |
| 0:20.4 | I have for six and a half years |
| 0:23.1 | spoke about one of my favorite books called Broken Ladder. And the author of that book is Keith Payne, |
| 0:28.3 | who is a professor of psychology at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. |
| 0:33.8 | Very esteemed school. Very. Is it? Yeah, it is. |
| 0:38.2 | Of public schools, it's like, it is one of the best ones. |
| 0:41.8 | Par excellence. |
| 0:42.9 | Yeah. |
| 0:43.2 | Probably with UCLA. |
| 0:46.0 | Berkeley. |
| 0:47.1 | Berkeley's public? |
| 0:48.3 | Yeah, that's a University of California, Berkeley. |
| 0:50.6 | Can you believe it? |
| 0:52.0 | That one does feel like Stanford, right? Yeah, but I think that's for fakes. Just like University of Arizona State. Hold on a second. You got to lay off of ASU. They don't have a lazy river. We covered this. They're a good school, good people. Back to Keith. He is, in addition to being a professor, he's also an international leader in the |
| 1:11.0 | psychology of inequality and discrimination. He has a new book out that is tremendous. It's called |
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