This is Jim Simovan and you are listening to That UFO podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast. My name is Andy and I am joined today by a podcast

host, researcher and now documentary maker, part of the team that brought us new release at Cosmosis.

Love to welcome back to the podcast Kelly Chase. Kelly,

welcome. Hi, Andy. Thanks so much for having me back. It's great to see you. Very good to have you

back on. Looking forward to this one because we are going to be chatting your new creation alongside

Jay Christopher King. I believe last time you were on, it was with Jay.

I know Jay's been on himself previously as well. So it's good to get Kelly solo. But if

anyone's listening to this and isn't familiar with Kelly Chase, a little bit of your background

would be great, Kelly. And what's kind of brought you to the UFO dance? Sure. So I'm the host of the UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.

I've been doing this for about three years now.

Up until just a few months before I started my podcast, I actually wasn't thinking about UFOs at all.

It wasn't on my radar.

I had an anomalous experience that kind of opened me up to the idea and things just sort of snowballed from there.

And it's been really interesting. It's been a crazy ride these last few years.

But yeah, you can find me on the UFO Rabbit Hole. I'm also a monthly guest host on Whitley

Streber's Dreamland. And then, as Andy said, also in our new show, Cosmosis, UFOs and a new reality.

And I should probably mention Ontocalypse

Productions within that as well, which is that the overseeing company now, because that's

also produced books at this point, hasn't it? Yes, yeah. So Antacalyps Productions is the company

I started with Jay Christopher King and also Jordan Flowers. And yeah, we do right now so far,

we did our docu-series. We're working on a

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