Ketamine Up-Close: Capturing My On-Camera Experience with a Treatment That Could Reshape Mental Health Worldwide
The Kevin Rose Show
Kevin Rose
4.9 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 2 September 2024
⏱️ 120 minutes
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Summary
Buckle up; in this episode, we explore the emerging field of ketamine therapy for mental health treatment with Dr. Jennifer Ellice, a board-certified emergency physician based in Los Angeles. Dr. Ellice, who studied at Princeton University and the University of Rochester School of Medicine before completing her residency at the Warren Alpert Medical School of Brown University, brings extensive experience in emergency medicine since 2008 to her current specialization in ketamine therapy as the Co-Founder of Golden Afternoon.
The conversation delves into ketamine's potential for treating depression, anxiety, PTSD, and chronic pain while addressing common misconceptions and safety concerns. Dr. Ellice discusses the medical applications of ketamine beyond its traditional use as an anesthetic, drawing on her diverse medical background.
Viewers will gain access to the clinical process, from patient screening to administration methods, and witness an unprecedented insider's view as Kevin allows cameras to document his experience during a live ketamine booster therapy session. This rare, unfiltered look into an actual treatment aims to demystify the process, reduce stigma, and potentially help those suffering from mental health issues see ketamine therapy as a viable option. Kevin's willingness to share this deeply personal experience underscores the importance of open dialogue about mental health treatments and advancing public understanding of innovative therapies.
This episode aims to provide a balanced, scientific perspective on a promising but complex treatment option in modern psychiatry, guided by Dr. Ellice’s unique blend of emergency medicine expertise and cutting-edge mental health treatment knowledge.
Links
* Andrew Huberman — Ketamine: Benefits and Risks for Depression, PTSD & Neuroplasticity
Show Topics
* Introduction to Dr. Jennifer Ellis and her credentials
* Overview of ketamine's history in medicine
* Explanation of ketamine as an anesthetic and its use in emergency medicine
* Introduction to ketamine's potential for treating mental health conditions
* Discussion of ketamine's effects on the brain and neuroplasticity
* Comparison of ketamine to traditional antidepressants
* Explanation of different administration methods (IV, intramuscular, intranasal)
* The importance of proper dosing and medical supervision
* Description of a typical ketamine therapy session
* Addressing safety concerns and potential side effects
* Discussion of ketamine's addictive potential
* The concept of "time on brain" and why it matters in treatment
* Exploration of ketamine's effectiveness for various conditions (depression, anxiety, PTSD, chronic pain)
* The role of set and setting in ketamine therapy
* Integration of ketamine therapy with other forms of treatment
* The importance of patient screening and selection
* Legal status and insurance coverage for ketamine therapy
* Potential future developments in ketamine therapy and psychedelic medicine
* Kevin’s first-hand account of a ketamine therapy session
* Post-session integration and the importance of follow-up care
* Discussion of potential long-term effects and benefits of ketamine therapy
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| 0:00.0 | Dr. Jim, thank you for joining me. |
| 0:01.6 | Yeah, I'm so glad to have you here. |
| 0:03.7 | Me too. |
| 0:04.7 | Happy to be here. |
| 0:04.9 | This is like going to be so cool because this is such a topic that I find can be just so |
| 0:11.2 | polarizing for so many people. |
| 0:14.3 | When I first announced on Twitter |
| 0:15.8 | that I had gone through and done Ketamine therapy, |
| 0:18.5 | I got druggie, you know, I got all this like hate. |
| 0:22.1 | I got some people saying, congrats,'s awesome glad you treated yourself I got other people that reached out to me said hey I did it too. It was life changing for me |
| 0:29.7 | But before we get into that, there's so much to talk about. |
| 0:32.8 | I want to think, I think the most important thing is that, |
| 0:37.1 | you know, as I've been following these trends and I thankfully do a lot, |
| 0:41.2 | a lot to, you know know Tim Ferris involvement in |
| 0:43.2 | psychedelics and trying to push that forward. |
| 0:45.4 | I believe I first heard about Academy treatment via him |
| 0:48.8 | like probably like six years ago or something like that and at that point in time when I was in Portland, these were like a lot of kind of like fly-by-night operations. |
| 0:58.0 | It seems like they were just propped up, you didn't talk about it. But I think the first thing before we get in this conversation |
| 1:04.0 | What I loved about finding you was that you're a legit doctor so you go by Dr. Jen which is super awesome because it feels more approachable but it's actually |
| 1:13.6 | Dr. Jennifer Ellis you are a board certified in emergency medicine based in Los Angeles |
| 1:22.0 | you studied at Princeton University, University of Rochester |
| 1:27.0 | School of Medicine, and the Warren Alpert Medical School of Brown University Residency |
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