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In the book Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrote The Real Anthony Fauchy, and it's really right at the beginning of the book, and he quotes John Abramson from Harvard Medical School.

He says, the first step is to give the illusion that the primary purpose of modern medical research is to improve Americans health most effectively and efficiently.

In our opinion, the primary purpose of commercially funded clinical research is to maximize financial

return on investment, not health.

Assuming that quote is accurate, it sounds like the primary motivation was not so much putting the patient first through this COVID process, but having some corporate interest really placed ahead of the patient.

Would you agree with that statement generally?

No, not completely.

Operation Warms Speed was a clearinghouse where companies could come forward with products and we had to negotiate with the FDA and with the National Institutes of Health.

It's very important. and I was involved with two projects that we had to bring forward.

One was the Imogenon cell-based vaccine and the other one was a

Japanese product via Bear which was the Ramachaban.

So I dealt with it process firsthand.

The farmer companies were not driving it.

It was clear the government agencies were driving it.

With COVID, the pharma companies,

they were just the suppliers.

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