So, hi everybody and welcome to this live podcast with Kinevik, a remarkable Swedish company.

And this company was founded in 1936, so has a long tradition in driving growth and innovation in various industries,

telecom, e-commerce and healthcare. And at NBM, we own just under 4% of the company equivalent to just under $100 million.

So a warm welcome to the CEO, Georgie Ganev and the chair James Anderson.

So, Georgie, just before we start, what is Kinnivik?

So, as you said, we are soon 90 years old or young, I suppose.

We have a history of backing amazing founders and being part of building businesses across

various sectors.

We are publicly listed, meaning that we give public shareholders the exposure to fast-growing companies. And we have a long-term mindset because we also have our founding families still as lead shareholders,

providing shareholders of flesh and blood with long-term minds we also have our founding families still as lead shareholders,

providing shareholders of flesh and blood with long-term mindset looking for returns for generations rather than quarters.

So I think in simple terms, who we are.

Good. And how has before you changed over the years?

It has changed massively because the only constant within Chenevik is that we, you know,

reinvent ourselves. So we've had a number of transformations before. And for the last six years or so,

we have again changed the portfolio into new sectors. So healthcare was something we

built up actually starting six, six, seven years ago, complete new sector. So transformed the

portfolio massively over the last years. So when you come to work every day, what's your goal?

What is your kind of long-term goal? I mean, I think our ultimate goal is that we want to be

the best owners in these sectors for our companies. And I mean, a lot of investors say that they are

long-term. For me, that's not just the holding period time. It's basically what type of discussions

we are driving in the boardroom.

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