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1 big thing

Laurie Santos: Finding connection in lonely times

1 big thing

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🗓️ 30 November 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

According to the Surgeon General, about one in two American adults report experiencing loneliness. As self-help voices continue cropping up in every corner of the internet on staving off loneliness and finding happiness, Laurie Santos of Yale--host of The Happiness Lab podcast--brings a scientific perspective. She says research tell us we're bad at knowing what makes us feel good, but that getting better at it could have far-reaching consequences for society as a whole: "Ultimately, social connection really needs to be our bottom line in terms of public health." Finding connection in lonely times: Why it may matter more than we ever realized. Plus, a push for loneliness legislation. And, intergenerational friendship as a meaningful--but less common--type of social connection. Guests: Laurie Santos, professor of psychology at Yale University and host of The Happiness Lab podcast; Erica Pandey, author of the Axios Finish Line newsletter Credits: 1 big thing is produced by Niala Boodhoo, Alexandra Botti, Alex Sugiura, and Fonda Mwangi. Music is composed by Alex Sugiura. You can reach us at [email protected]. You can send questions, comments and story ideas as a text or voice memo to Niala at 202-918-4893. Axios House Dubai COP28 Events Schedule Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Loneliness is as bad for us as smoking 15 cigarettes a day.

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Finding connection in lonely times.

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Does this matter more than we ever realized?

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Ultimately, social connection really needs to be our bottom line in terms of public health.

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I'm Naila Boodoo from Axios. This is one big thing. A few weeks ago on the podcast I talked with Surgeon General Dr.

0:27.1

Vivek Murthy about how social media is contributing to the declining

0:30.9

mental health of young people across the U.S.

0:33.8

Thanks to many of you who reached out to us about grappling with this as parents.

0:37.9

That got us thinking about an overlapping crisis that affects a huge swath of us regardless of age and one that's

0:44.9

also been front and center for public health experts especially in the last few

0:50.0

years. That's loneliness. Nearly 40% of Americans rated their mental health as only

0:56.0

fair or poor toward the end of last year. That's according to the American

1:00.0

psychiatric association. And according to the Surgeon General, about one in two American adults

1:06.0

report experiencing loneliness.

1:08.8

Not surprisingly, one result of all of this is even more self-help voices emerging from every corner of the internet,

1:15.3

from Tik-talk to Instagram to podcasts and beyond, talking about staving off loneliness and finding

1:21.2

happiness. Well, one of those voices is rooted in science and has been around for years.

1:27.0

Dr. Lorry Santos is a professor of psychology at Yale University and host of the happiness lab

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podcast.

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We're pretty bad at predicting what makes us feel good.

1:36.4

A lot of us are putting a lot of work into feeling better and feeling happier,

1:40.4

but we're going about it the wrong way

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