Luckily, I lived a very full life before.

What does that mean?

Girl.

I've lived and I've made my mistakes.

And I've made mistakes in the public guys, certainly as well,

but I had all the things I did when I was younger that young people should do.

I was a mess. I was a mess. but I'm glad I got to be a mess.

Laverne Cox is one of the most recognizable trans people in the world, maybe ever. She's an icon.

And because of that, I think it's really easy to forget just how different things were in 2013

when Orange is a New Black first premiered. That was the show that put Laverne on the map,

and also helped her land the cover of Time magazine. So today we start off by talking about that

time cover, how prepared or not she felt to suddenly be in the center of the spotlight,

and just how much things have changed since then. Because the very same year

that Laverne was on the cover of time, she was also on the cover of our magazine, The Advocate. We

declared her the face of the movement. And now, in a really exciting way, Leverne Cox is not the

only face of the trans movement. She's one of many.

Now, just to note, this was recorded last fall for Luminary Media,

so you will hear Laverne talk about the October 8th Supreme Court case with Amy Stevens,

the one debating whether it's legal to discriminate against queer and trans people in the workplace.

And as we know now, the Supreme Court ruled in our favor.

Holy shit, right?

The magnitude and impact of this, especially for those most of the margins in our community,

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