Lawfare Daily: The Golden Dome Missile Defense Program

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🗓️ 11 April 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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For today's episode, Lawfare Foreign Policy Editor Daniel Byman interviewed Tom Karako, the Director of the Missile Defense Program at CSIS, to discuss the Trump administration's missile defense proposals known as "Golden Dome." Karako explains the purpose of Golden Dome, its feasibility and cost, the likely reactions of China and Russia, and what realistic success would look like.

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0:00.0	The following podcast contains advertising.
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0:18.2	Also, check out Lawfare's other podcast offerings, Rational Security, Chatter,
0:25.2	Lawfare No Bull, and The Aftermath. You're not going to be able to protect those
0:33.4	airfields indefinitely, but you may be able to do it long enough so that China has an
0:39.3	increased doubt that they aren't going to pay a very heavy price for doing that sort of an
0:47.3	attack.
0:48.3	It's the Lawfare podcast.
0:50.3	I'm Daniel Beiman, the Foreign Policy Editor of Lawfare.
0:53.6	And I'm here today with Tom Carrico, who is the director of the missile defense project at CSIS.
1:01.3	You've seen the Russian kind of proliferation of crews and hypersonic and, yes, undersea, you know,
1:08.0	Megaton delivery devices.
1:10.7	It's going to be wicked hard to get everything.
1:13.7	And that's why I think it is far more stabilizing than destabilizing.
1:18.2	When you put pen to paper and you think it through.
1:21.1	Today we're talking about the Trump administration's Golden Dome Missile Defense programs.
1:26.9	So we're going to talk today about the changes or possible changes in U.S. missile defense.
1:34.0	And I want you to start really by educating us.
1:37.4	On January 27th, President Trump issued an executive order entitled An Iron Dome for America.
1:43.9	It's since come to be called
1:45.8	the Golden Dome effort. And for those of us who are outside the missile defense community,
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