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Welcome back to the Hackett Outgolf podcast. We're going to do a swing episode. And this is a super

interesting question. Lou and Greg are going to try and answer the question.

And it's a slightly different one that will blow a few people's heads off,

but hopefully it won't by the time I've explained it.

There are two questions that we're going to ask and we're going to talk about why these

numbers might be different as well.

So we're looking at a tour pro, average tour pro, looking at the gear system, thanks to the guys at J.D. Golf Academy providing this to me.

And we're looking at a driver swing, average driver swing with a tour pro.

So they take all their tour pros and average out the numbers.

So at the top of the back swing, so when a tour pro completes the top of the back swing,

if we think of top of the back swing as the club changing pro completes the top of the back swing if we think of top of

the back swing as the club changing direction so the club actually changing direction i want to know

what the shoulder turn number is at the top of the back swing so it'll be a degrees turn degrees

rotated and then i also want to know what the chest or ribs kind of area turn is,

because the numbers are not quite the same, and we're going to talk about why they're not the same.

So I want to know what the shoulder turn is, top of the back swing, Torpro, with a driver,

and I want to understand or get you, I want you to answer

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