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Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith

Learning to Thrive in the Struggle: BeBe Winans & Tasha Cobbs Leonard

Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith

Jesus Calling

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🗓️ 26 December 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

*This episode mentions suicide and may not be suitable for all listeners.*

This week, we’ll hear from BeBe Winans, a celebrated figure in gospel and R&B music from the renowned Winans family, known for their deep-rooted musical legacy. Raised in a household steeped in gospel traditions and surrounded by the influences of Motown, Bebe experienced some of the ups and downs of the music scene as he and his sister, CeCe Winans, ultimately rose to fame as a beloved singing duo. 

Later in the episode, we’ll hear from Tasha Cobbs Leonard, a powerful worship leader, pastor, and entrepreneur. Raised in a faith-filled family, Tasha was encouraged by her father, a pastor, to embrace her gifts. A “divine setup” led to her first album, and she went on to inspire millions with songs like "Break Every Chain," which grew from her own battle with depression.

 

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BeBe Winans

CeCe Winans

Motown

Mighty Clouds of Joy

Shirley Caesar 

Andraé Crouch 

Smokey Robinson

Stevie Wonder

Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker

The PTL Club

Bebe and CeCe

Keith Thomas

“Father In Heaven [Right Now]”

Luke 12:48 NIV

 

Tasha Cobbs Leonard

“Break Every Chain”

Naomi Raine

Luke 14:23 NIV

www.tashacobbsleonard.com

Do It Anyway

 

Interview Quotes:

“Your gift will make room. What you have to go through is okay. It does work out if you believe and continue to have faith in what God has called you to do.” - BeBe Winans 

“I'm amazed at the doors that God opens. I find myself in places that I never dreamed of and working with people I never thought I would.” - BeBe Winans

“There's such a roller coaster of emotions that we are blessed with because of what God has done through us, through music. It really never gets old to hear what our music has done for others.” - BeBe Winans

“We live in a world where we are consumed with, ‘Hey, this is the beginning, and this is the end.’ A lot of people don't really embrace the process in the middle. But I think in the process is when we gain all of the knowledge, all of the wisdom that we need in order to be great stewards of what God entrusted us with.” - Tasha Cobbs Leonard

“I believe it's always intentional on God's part to place people in your life who see things in you that you may not see in that season.” - Tasha Cobbs Leonard

“Though many days I was discouraged and I didn't know what I was doing, I know that God was with me every step of the way.” - Tasha Cobbs Leonard

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Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!

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Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer:  https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C 

Peace for Everyday Life:     https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj 

Peace in Uncertain Times:     https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u 

What’s Good?     https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj 

Enneagram:     https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Life Audio

0:03.6

This episode mentions suicide and may be triggering for some listeners.

0:11.6

Jesus listens. The 365-day prayer devotional now comes in a note-taking edition.

0:18.2

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0:22.7

your reflections, prayers, and thoughts.

0:25.4

It makes a perfect gift for anyone who journals and wants to make a record of their walk

0:30.3

with God.

0:31.3

Look for the Jesus Listen's Note-Taking Edition wherever you buy books.

0:37.9

When I look back and I look at some of the struggles, a friend of mine played a really

0:44.5

incredible role in my life.

0:48.7

And she said to me, Beebe, learn to enjoy the struggle.

0:55.4

A lot of people want to get to the top

0:58.2

and they don't understand that it's in the struggle

1:02.4

where you learn who you are.

1:04.7

It's in the struggle where you learn who people are.

1:07.2

It's in the struggle where you learn most of all who God is.

1:12.9

Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast. This week we'll hear from B.B. Wynens, a celebrated

1:18.0

figure and gospel and R&B. Raised in a household steeped in gospel traditions and surrounded by

1:24.3

the influences of Motown, Bibi experienced some of the ups and downs of the music scene

1:28.7

as he and his sister Cece ultimately rose to fame as a beloved singing duo.

1:33.8

Later in the episode, we'll hear from Tasha Cobbs Leonard,

1:36.8

a powerful worship leader, pastor, and entrepreneur.

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