You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience.

And maybe that's you.

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

This is Five Live Boxing.

Live fights, opinion and one of the great.

This, my friend, is a special pod.

Make no mistake.

In Birmingham on Saturday, Shabaz Massoud beat Liam Davis. They were both unbeaten

and there was needle. Shantel Cameron also won. That's the live part. Caroline Dubois

would join me to talk about Chantelle Cameron on women's boxing, which is not a bad

little story in itself. And then the big lad will sit down with me.

The heavyweight king, Lennox Lewis, with me.

I'm Steve Bunx and this is Five Live Boxing.

So I'll hear from Lennox a bit later on.

The plan was, I'll be absolutely honest with you, was to run the Lennox interview at the top.

Because Lennox talks about life.

He talks about touring, it talks about rematches, and that's very topical at the moment.

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