Welcome back y'all at across politics.

Here we are.

And with us, we're really thankful to have Mr. Jason Riley. He's an editorial

board member from the Wall Street Journal. Yeah. Where he has contributed since 1994, even salon,

even Salon, even Salon says, quote, the American left should start paying attention to the Wall Street

journals Jason Riley. His name is on the rise wow how did that happen he's a he's the

author of the book that we really want to talk to him about today called please stop

helping us how liberals make it harder for blacks to succeed Jason thanks so much

for being on the show.

Thank you for having me.

I appreciate it.

Jason, when you say that liberal policies are making it hard for blacks to succeed,

what are you talking about?

What do you mean by that?

I'm talking mainly about the welfare state,

the Great Society programs that were introduced in the

1960s, and looking at the black outcomes that have followed the implementation of those policies.

And I contrast that with some of the outcomes that we saw in the first half of the 20th century

with respect to racial gaps

and schooling or incomes or homeownership and the track record we saw then in the first half

of the 20th century.

And I concluded that although we hear a lot about the legacy of slavery when it comes to

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