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Death, Sex & Money

Life and Death Inside the Playboy Mansion

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Crystal met Hugh Hefner when she was 21 and he was 81. They spent 10 years together at the Playboy mansion before he died and she became a widow. In this episode she reflects on their marriage, and how she’s changed since. Crystal Hefner’s memoir is called Only Say Good Things: Surviving Playboy and Finding Myself. Podcast production by Zoe Azulay Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Is there a romantic relationship in your past that you look back on and see that what once felt

0:06.8

exhilarating, sexy, and validating was actually built on some pretty disturbing foundations.

0:14.0

How do you make sense of your choices and the memories that once felt really

0:20.0

right but don't any longer.

0:23.8

That's what Crystal Hefner, widow of Hugh Hefner,

0:27.5

is working out in her recent book called

0:29.8

Only Say Good Things,

0:31.8

surviving Playboy and and finding myself. There's a lot to

0:36.6

unpack a 60-year age gap between herself and her husband or how she was

0:42.1

surrounded by sex and sensual titillation,

0:45.8

while feeling pretty bored herself.

0:48.7

There was also a sudden catapulting class transition, but the access to luxury came with rigid conditions.

0:57.0

Crystal also became a reality TV star and was watched closely as she was figuring out how she felt about all this.

1:06.1

And now it's over. He's gone.

1:09.1

She had a pre-nup and has financial comfort from those years and a mess of feelings, including

1:16.6

that during her years in the Playboy Mansion, she now considers herself a

1:21.2

victim of abuse. You know, so hounded by the media all the time. Like it

1:26.8

would be, Heff was so praised. And then when he had the girls with him, we would be completely attacked.

1:38.0

Like, what's it like having sex with an old man?

1:41.0

What old balls look like?

1:43.6

Like, why aren't you asking this 81 year old man

1:46.4

why he's sleeping with 20 year olds and 19 year olds. This is death, sex, and money.

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