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I've had hundreds of big conversations, and my conversation partners share wisdom I carry with me wherever I go.

Eckhart totally began to gain attention with his 1997 book, The Power of Now.

Millions of people around the world have found pragmatic tools in his vision that fundamentally complicates the notion I think, therefore I am.

This is Becoming Wise. I'm Krista Tippett.

You know, you tell this story in a New Earth about you experienced a woman talking to herself on the train, right?

The tube train.

Tell that story.

It kind of caught in her thoughts.

And then you came to understand that you had some of the same problems.

Yes.

So I would sometimes see her on the train, and she would continuously talk to herself or to an imaginary person in a very angry voice, or continuously complaining.

And then he did this to me, and then he said in ice, and then how dare he tell me this?

And I watched in amazement

thought how can anybody be so insane and still apparently have a job because she would catch the

supper every morning and one day I was washing my hands in the bathroom and I thought my god

her voice she never stops talking and I suddenly realized, well, I do that too, except that I don't do it out aloud.

And then I thought, I hope I don't end up like her.

And somebody next to me looked at me and I suddenly realized in shock that I had actually said these words aloud just like her.

I said, I hope I don't end up like her.

So I realized my mind was as incessantly active as hers.

Our only difference was that my thought was mostly based on feeling sorry for myself.

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