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Welcome back to another episode of Confessions of a Crappy Christian.

I am your host and resident Crappy Christian Blake, and every week I get to have the

coolest conversations with incredible people about all the things most Christians are still not sure

we're allowed to talk about. So if you've been looking for a place to land with all your crap,

and for someone to just be honest about what it looks like to walk through this Christian life,

well you've come to the right place. Pull up a seat, pop in your headphones, and tune out your kids,

and come hang out with me and a guest for the authentic conversations that you have been looking for.

So this week for the show I got to chat with you one and only Lisa Bovier. We're talking about her

new book Godmother's and the significance of having women in your life who have gone before you,

and the impact of having a Godmother in your life and what that means. And y'all, Lisa is everything

you think she is and more. This conversation was such a gift to me personally, and I know it's

going to be the same for you.

All right y'all, I'm so excited to welcome Lisa Bovier to the show today. Lisa, hi.

Hi, I'm so excited to be on the show. I actually really loved the title. I would have said yes if

you had two listeners. Oh, the highest praise. Thank you so much. So you're kind of one of those

guests that almost, you know, needs no introduction, but in case you do, I would love for you to maybe

just tell us a little bit about who you are and what you're passionate about and you're here to

talk about your new book Godmother's. Maybe tell us a little bit about that as well.

Absolutely. Well, I am a 60 year old Sicilian grandmother. I am the mother of four men and a

grandmother to four. I have two grandsons, two granddaughters. I have been traveling and

ministering to women for over 30 years. That's just right there. That's just kind of crazy for me

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