LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) Panel 5 | Aphrodite Jones and Joshua Schiffer

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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4.4 • 696 Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with Aphrodite Jones and Joshua Schiffer. Together, they dive into the allegations linking former Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke to the Gilgo Beach murders. They discuss how Burke's history of sex crimes and deviancy connects him to prime suspect John Bittrolff, and examine the willful failures in the early days of the investigation.

Listen to previous episodes of the LISK case here:

LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) Panel: A Zone 7 Discussion

LISK (Long Island Serial Killer): Part 2 with Kerri Rawson

LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) Full Panel 2

LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) | Panel 4 with John Ray and Lisa Ribacoff

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum.
[2:45] Sheryl introduces guests Joshua Schiffer and Aphrodite Jones
[6:30] Burke's history of sex crimes and corruption
[13:00] Analysis of the power dynamics in law enforcement
[15:40] The FBI Killer by Aphrodite Jones
[17:00] Discussion on the obligations of police to sex workers
[19:45] “No man's above the law. No woman's above the law. That's the great thing about this country. It's not a perfect system, but I haven't found one better.”
[23:00] Details of Rex Huerman's internet searches
[27:00] Insights into the world of sexual deviance
[33:00] Police protection of Gilgo suspects
[42:30] "The historical analogy couldn’t be more clear. What’s the most famous worldwide serial killer of all time across all Western cultures? Jack the Ripper. And who did he target? Prostitutes."
[48:30] "Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power." -O.W
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

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0:00.0	When I was going for my last interview at the Crime Commission,
0:12.0	I had to do what they called a psychological with Dr. Guy.
0:16.0	Now, everybody had warned me about this guy,
0:19.0	that he was going to make me wait in the waiting room for a long period of time.
0:23.3	And then when he finally brought me in, where I sat was going to matter.
0:27.4	He had a rocking chair, then a sofa, and then this lazy boy chair.
0:32.4	So whatever you picked to sit on mattered, and he was going to do this whole profile on you just based on that.
0:38.5	And if you chose the sofa, whether it was to the far right or far left or in the middle,
0:42.9	told him something else about you.
0:44.6	So I thought, I'm prepped.
0:46.7	I'm ready.
0:47.4	This guy's not going to fool me.
0:49.5	He's not going to get under my skin.
0:51.4	They've already told me he's going to make me pick who I prefer,
0:54.5	my mom or my dad, all these things he's going to throw at me. But I was still not prepared.
1:00.7	He hands me a brand new yellow legal pad and tells me to write down every single person I've ever
1:08.1	had sex with. In my mind, I'm like, if my list is too long, that tells him one thing.
1:14.6	If my list is too short, it's going to tell him another.
1:17.9	And if I do my true list, he's going to think I'm a liar.
1:20.9	So I used the only gift I truly have, which is my humor.
1:26.7	And I looked right at him and I said, I'm going to need some
1:30.1	more paper. At that point, he kind of smiled and took the legal pad from me and said, okay,
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