4.4 • 13K Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2023
⏱️ 4 minutes
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Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan tell the wild stories of some of the most extraordinary men and women ever to have lived – and ask whether they have the rep they deserve. Should Nina Simone’s role in the civil rights movement be more celebrated than it is? When you find out what Picasso got up to in his studio, can you still admire his art? Was Napoleon a hero or a tyrant - or both? (And, while we’re at it, was he even short?) Legacy is the show that looks at big lives from the perspective of now – and doesn’t always like what it sees.
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0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Peter Francopan, and I'm quickly dropping in to tell you about a new podcast I'm hosting with Afwer-Hirsch called Legacy. |
0:08.0 | Everyone leaves a legacy. For some, it lives on for decades, for centuries. |
0:13.0 | But a legacy can also change. |
0:15.0 | Reputations are re-examined by new generations who may not like what they find. |
0:19.4 | Legacy explores the lives of some of the biggest characters in history, from Napoleon to Picasso to Nina |
0:24.8 | Simone and finds out more about what their pasts tell us about our present. |
0:29.4 | I'm about to play you a clip from our first season exploring the legacy of Napoleon. |
0:34.0 | If you like what you hear, search and Napoleon? |
0:53.3 | I used to be a lawyer and when I think Napoleon I think of Napoleonic code |
0:57.3 | when countries became independent from Europe they often adopted the Napoleonic codes. |
1:01.3 | Right, well you said you would be a lawyer, you thought maybe you'd sue him, |
1:04.0 | but it's about the legacy of Napoleon as a lawmaker and administrator. |
1:08.3 | No bad law or Waterloo? |
1:09.3 | Nope, for me, he was this slightly vague figure with his arm tucked into his jacket and weird jokes |
1:16.2 | about his height and the size of various other body parts that I never really understood |
1:20.5 | their origin. |
1:21.5 | Gosh in the English education system well you have Battle of Hastings and then the Battle of Waterloo, |
1:25.3 | you could have months. |
1:26.3 | Well he's clearly a character that is still very much in our popular culture and now, |
1:30.4 | Peter, we have a new Ridley Scott movie starring Joachim Phoenix and it said more books written |
1:37.1 | about him than anyone else. |
1:39.1 | Yeah, I heard 300,000 books. |
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