Hello, you're very welcome to Long Reeds, a Jacobin podcast where we look in depth of political

topics and thinkers. My name's Daniel Finn, on the Feetches Editor here at Jacobin, and I'll be

presenting the show. For now, the ceasefire deal between Hamas and the Israeli government appears

to be holding, but Donald Trump's proposal for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza

has been the main focus of discussion over the past few weeks.

Speaking at a press conference with Benimin Netanyahu,

Trump used the destruction of Gaza with American-made bombs

as a rationale for his plan. The Gaza Strip has been a symbol of death and destruction for so many decades and

it's been very unlucky. It's been an unlucky place for a long time.

And it should not go through a process of rebuilding and occupation by the same people that have

really stood there and fought for it and

lived there and died there and lived a miserable existence there. Instead, we should go to other

countries of interest with humanitarian hearts, and there are many of them that want to do this and build

various domains that will ultimately be occupied by the 1.8 million Palestinians living in Gaza,

ending the death and destruction and frankly bad luck. This can be paid for by neighboring countries

of great wealth. It could be one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, twelve.

It could be numerous sites, or it could be one large site,

but the people will be able to live in comfort and peace.

The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip,

and we will do a job with it too.

We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling

all of the dangerous unexploded bombs

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